Kent: You’ve mentioned karma a few times in this conversation. You seem to be saying that a child has karmic intent.
Christopher: How ‘karma’ works is a good thing to explore, at this point; because what you’re saying is: “It’s bad karma to think about death.” Right? You are saying that the practice will have a bad outcome.
Before we begin, I want to say, if we are talking about karma, we are inviting a conversation about the constructed (Pāli: sankhata) dimension of reality. That’s worth remembering as the background to this conversation. ‘Karma’ is a lens though which we can think of process. And, traditionally karma is not exactly about the outcome; karma is the shaping of experience through intention. I think that’s standard Buddhism.
K: Okay.
C: So, if I have stuffed the thought of death down, with the intention of dealing with it that way, the concept of death is going to be a process that rolls on in with the energy of that intention in it. That is, there will be unintended consequences. (It’s not a one to one thing, though. The action doesn’t automatically produce a facsimile outcome. I’ll explain this after.)
Because I am not meeting the thought fully, and because of my negative intention – to not feel what is already available to be felt – there will be further processes flow from this. The energy-suppressing energy is occurring into my development. That’s one aspect.
Another angle is: the energy that is the thought of death is not allowed to carry forward into insight, and hence other processes will try to compensate, will try to fill the deficiency of the insight which could have happened, and which is still implicit in my organism.
If you meet each moment with one hundred percent of your awareness, you leave nothing over. The intention to put it off until later, means a ‘hole,’ and the process will later turn up more powerfully, because it has gathered a lot of momentum through putting it off, again and again. It remains in one form or another, as a hindered process.
K: I love the thought of meeting each moment fully! Though, that’s big ask.
C: What would that mean, meeting your fear of death fully?
K: That’s what I’m asking you.
C: Okay, maybe we can come back to this. Maybe if we, first, understand more deeply how karma works. I’ve said suppressing the thought of death has unintended consequences. So, let me outline some principles of the bodily processes involved in ‘karma’:
Firstly, the body is an interaction with its environment; and, also, the body is interaction with itself. The body is interaction. (Gendlin, in A Process Model, Ch.I).
K: Hm… maybe that’s what mind is – the body’s interaction with itself.
C: Perhaps. I’d have to give that a little think. However, for now, let’s say that the body is always interactional, always process; it’s not a thing.
K: Self-organising process, as Maturana and Varela said.
C: I think so. I haven’t studied their work well, but their autopoiesis looks helpful.
So, the body functions to take care of its needs, to carry life forward, as best it can for the environment that it is in. I like Gendlin’s sentence (in A Process Model, Ch.I): “The body is a non-representational concretion of (with) its environment.”
K: Explain please.
C: Yes, I will, but I need to say, firstly, that I am not representing Gendlin’s thought in this blog. I’m putting forward an understanding influenced by him, but which might not be said by him. Having said that, how do I understand ‘non-representational concretion’?
Well… it’s like this: the body is not a concept – it’s living process; as an interacting event, it’s a ‘biospheric’ event – even a cosmic event – with all the intelligence which that implies. Your body is – primordially – not an idea, or a concept. It comes before concepts (which are ‘about’ it). So, it’s ‘non-representational.’
And, ‘concretion’ means, as I read it: the fact of how the environment and the body have grown together – that the evolutionary process of each is their inter-development. They grew and go on growing together. They imply each other, in living.
K: Wow! I love that! So, what does this mean for us, in our conversation?
C: Let’s see…. I’m stating this as one principle to help us understand karma. A body is never without interaction. That’s the first thing. And, it carries its processes forward, whatever the skilfulness of the person. When it’s interactions can’t supply it with what it needs, it attempts adaption. If not successful, it dies.
K: I think you’re saying that if I don’t investigate what is the core thrust of my thought of death, the body will find some way of dealing with the feelings about death.
C: Busy-ness, drink and drugs, television, sex – experience-altering in some form.
So, we’re already touching upon the second principle, related to the first. Firstly: Bodies are interactions. Secondly: ever-present bodily interaction always implies the optimising thrust of carrying-forward the life process, in some way. The organism – in this case, the intelligence we call ‘the body’ – functions to carry life forward.
K: I think of child development.
C: Yes, that’s a good instance. You might have wanted to stop growing up, at some stage, but the body had its carrying forward to do. You couldn’t stop it. As I entered teenage years, I dreaded becoming an adult. I was resisting nature.
K: Me, too. I was a Peter Pan, some said.
C: However, bodies change, grow, develop, and evolve, and carry the big life process forward. Here, we can also look at it from the bigger picture, which is that the big life process is carrying the body forward. There’s no separation.
K: That follows.
C: Another way of saying this second principle is: bodily change has implicit continuity which is always an unfolding of life-possibilities.